Elkinda

Admin Name:Elkinda

Offence Commited:this is wat went down. we raided elkinda everything proper went up /y raid. we kill some of them they kill some of us. they have this guy not in there base but outside just driving around in a blue corvette CDMing, some of our people came back (they are dumb) he banned our ppl for the nlr and but he didnt ban his friend for CDM.

Proof: in this video, the driver of the car admits he was hitting us outside of the base. and elkinda does nothing about it.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XGRC7XT6

Dont think of him as just an admin. think of him of a player which has the rights to enforce the rules and ban ppl disobeying the rules.

( sry havent figured out how to convert the video yet )
put in steam folder gmod and type playdemo in console.

Ahem...
http://www.ventmob.com/showthread.php?t=1

Doing good so far....

Too bad you had no fucking reason to raid in the first place.

Actually, none of us died.
Too bad it wasn't car DM, considering DM means deathmatch, which requires someone to die. You were attacking, I had just come back from a jaunt in the town when I saw you fucktards attacking us, so I ran you over while Butler sniped you.

Because said "CDM" never happened, and if it even did, it was in defence of a base, so kindly stfu about it.

Understand me so far? Okay, good.

Yep, that's because Elkinda knows I wasn't in the wrong.
At least you didn't use rapidshare...
You mean an admin?

No shit.

This does not mean that I pick his side.

The rules are decided by the admins in question, in this situation, the car was being used in a way that was not griefing, but defending a base.

EDIT: Your signature should be I came, I saw, I conquered. You did it wrong. Also, an Irish proverb that is against drinking? He must of been drunk when he said that.

You don't get it?

We'll have to wait till an input on a Super Admin.
Although I do remember that this has been answered somewhere in a ban/unban request.

Who said he was against drinking?

besides, it doesn't mean EVERY Irish man is drunk all the time as you say so, I bet he was sober when he wrote that.

I'd just like to hear the raiding reason.

And also, one of the hardest things the goverment face, is to make laws. Why you might wonder, and that's because you want to hit one group of people with them (ect people who intentionally dose somthing to harm people that are innecent), but don't hit the normal citizen. In Denmark, it is illegal to carry a knife, but imagine beeing a fisherman, whitout a knife, or a boy-scout, or a normal crafts man. My point is, that the rules should be taken witha a pinch of salt (if i'm not all wrong), as what they clearly want to prevent, is people running other people over randomly.

I am not sure about this, but that's just how I see it.

Rules are a base for us admins/mods to use and base our decisions upon them.

Yeah, fair judgement, common sence, and atleast half a brain, among other things is all you need! It's why admins/mods are chosen carefully by the VM founders.

Although I'm not sure I possess half a brain... me think.

I just don't think it's fair that we got banned, me and tweek where banned for breaking nlr even thought we where in our own spawn, he banned our members for breaking nlr so we thought it was only fair that he banned the cdmer no where in the rules does it say its ok that you can cdm when they are raiding you. We have gotten banned for using cars when someone was cdming, all we asked from the admin was to ban that cdmer. C1) Do not purposefully run other players over, you will be blacklisted from using cars. I am not asking the admin to get banned but to do his job fairly. I understand that [KC] is not like which is fine but if we break the rules ban us but when one of your own does it please take action. And Vautaut2 you don't have to be rude.